Point of View Podcast – Episode 5: Katie Wolfe

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K and welcome to point of view uh view magazines uh monthly film podcast my
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name is Tom Austine uh it's very nice to have you here with me today um we've got a great show coming up for you today
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we're talking with Casey Wolf the director of the excellent documentary the hacka party incident um we're going
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to be talking about that film The Making of that film which is now in cinemas um we're going to be looking at the new
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films that are coming out this month and uh also what's coming out on Realo
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Channel as well so stick around Katie wolf is a theater maker and filmmaker um
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a really really amazing one at that um her new film The hakas Incident is in
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cinemas now har thank you so much for being with me today K Tom thank you for
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inviting me on and thank you for seeing the fil and enjoying it I I'm a really
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big fan of this film um sort of Hing showing it from the roof boops as much
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as possible um it's a it's a really special and really important film and one that I think uh is arriving at a
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very important moment in newal history talking about um a very important moment in New Zealand prior um can you start
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maybe for those who don't know the story of the Haka party incident what is this film about the
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hucker party incident is documentary film based on an incident that happened
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in 1979 um it is it documents a clash
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between the Oakland University Engineering Department who had a tradition of um dressing up in Grass
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skirts and putting tattoos on their body and doing a very bad version of the hucker as part of the C Day stunt we
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have a a a new activist um movement coming out of South Oakland and and
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those um that mid to late 70s a group um which was named after the incident H TOA
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came into their last practice to say please stop doing this a violent I guess
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altercation I would say violent but it was more of a scuffle lasted three minutes and from that there was a huge
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Fallout um that we you see played out in the documentry um and but it was a pival
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point in the uh for New Zealand race relations um and but the story was
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forgotten and so part of my uh impetus to tell it was it is a forgotten story
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ret and it seems like there was maybe some encouragement that it become
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forgotten I think so I it's very interesting that because it was of course all over the paper at the time I
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think you wrote in your review that a family member had said I remember and then it was like it just seemed like
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a little sort of flash point and you disappeared dropped off the yes and I think particularly in the University it
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was it was it was I deliberately forgotten will will for forgetting I I
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talk about and wasn't forgotten in the in the um in the circles of her TOA and
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that movement they always remembered it but absolutely it was like put aside
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yeah so what was your Genesis with this project so you obviously made it and a piece of theater first
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um when did you become aware of the incident or had you always known about the incident and wanted to make something about it I was reading Walker
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um book which is a fantastic read it's a mildy
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POV of New Zealand history um and it mentions it in there and I was just it
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just was IND delible was just like well this is kind of like you know this is like violence you know this is a really
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big deal it's a clash between the two cultures so I always sort of had it sort
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of I bottom draw it in a way that was simmering down there as a story idea I
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did try to get some you know to maybe get it made through TV documentary many
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years ago it never got off the ground and then when the open theater Cy gave
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me the opportunity to create a new work I was I picked it up yeah right yeah and
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so then at at what point did you decide this has the leagues to become something
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Beyond theater to move into the c space well I think would have to actually that goes to co actually in that I the
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theater piece was very delayed during Co which you know it's a very interesting
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um experience to me in terms of understanding that how much uh story
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and creativity is about time and place in terms of you know the play was delay
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so by the time I was picked it up again it was like there was more another way to tell the story um and then when we
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were in the big lockdown of 21 um I because to make the theater
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piece I had to film everybody and I I ran my editor and um said look let's go
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and lock ourselves in a room and see if we can um see if we can start throwing the story together in terms of film so
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that was very much a a lockdown project um so and I was very aware when I was
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making it I was always asking that question is it a film because it's very very you know it's it's very static in
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terms of like it's just the people who you know that that's that's the premise of the film if you were in that room
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that day I want to hear from you so it's from the there's no there's not no of my
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opinion in the film whatsoever it's just if you in that room that day you tell
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you the truth um so I was always testing myself in terms of making that there was
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a cinematic conceit there for the film to carry and that came with the more the
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more archive I found or that beautiful film from the 1970s it's incredible isn't it you know
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that you know so revealing so much for so revealing all this spal itself yes
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yeah I find it very poetic yeah the street photography that was around and
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time um you know the main interview of hi TOA which was for
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a I think it's called eyewitness was eyewitness maybe the the program back in
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the day um that the only reason Nala had that footage is someone had um I think
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copied it either off off the TV or of
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some source and had delivered that to n h so it still had all the ad breaks the
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ads from the 9 whatever that time was so that and I already found that out very
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late so it was a because TVN Z destroyed so much of their um film back in the day
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just recording over Star right um that uh that it's was a real T that it's live
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that inter yeah I mean I find it fascinating you kind of touched on this
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so much of the film is as you say interviews sort of like just just the
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personal string answering questions which you know in certain formats
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doesn't necessarily have this kind of cinematic feel and yes in this film it's
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riveting it's utterly like just watching I think it's just because you um place
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the camera and it's just naked truth and it's just it's it's unfed
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unvarnished and you manage to coax these kinds of Revelations out the out of
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people um that I don't think they're even aware that they're kind of arriving there so what was the process there what
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was what was it like in those rooms especially talking to people who were on let's say the less uh the wrong side of
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History the wrong side of History yeah yeah you know it's a very common question for me um when I was making the
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play I had access to one interview from
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an engineer that was from the many years before when I tried to hit off the ground TV project I had that as a
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recording um but that was it I had nothing else from the engineers I had some
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names um and uh so this and this was the very first Workshop production that was
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going out now they must someone must have word must have got out somewhere
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and um I the was that week before we opened the workshop uh the receptionist
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ADC came in and said um there's someone on the phone we like to speak to you and it's one of the engineers wives and she
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had run the ulate theat company and said I be my husband to talk about this so off I high tailed out to um St halers
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and I met with Karen first we had a commonality we're both from tanaki we twed a lot about being brought up in
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tanaki um and we uh Karen was really you know she felt in herself that she knew
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her husband had been part or something a really big part of New Zealand history but had never got to talk about it then
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I went down and I met Ian he was down on his boat shed and I spoke to him he was really nervous to speak yeah um and I
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from there I met them a few more times before we actually put them on camera and it was very much
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a um I guess that I I think they Sense
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on me that I wasn't coming in to make um I was going want to blame anybody I was
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very very interested in what had happened to them that day and I was interested in helping them understand
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what had happened because they than never talked about it it was something almost therapeutical about the
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interviews are really trying to articulate what they' been through and
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um so I I really treasure those interviews in terms of their cand candidacy and their their their honesty
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yeah well you know that is fascinating I mean there is this feeling in this with some of them at least that there's like
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this desire to arrive at a place of peace to actually be held accountable in
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themselves which is really fascinating and kind of almost admirable in a sense
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you know to be able to actually front up and say I was part of this ideally
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regret it um and there's a generosity to the film that I think comes through and
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and and some of them don't regret it like does say I don't don't regret being part of it because they were part of a
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system you know these they were all 18 years old or 17 very young very young
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they were all from Catholic boy schools and that was just thing I found out later on there was there were only men
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white men in the department at their time there were no women you know there were Malaysian students that came in um
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but they had this incredibly sheltered view of the world and and and because
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and it was a world that I remembered I think that's really important actually I was 11 in 1979 and very cognizant
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actually um of the world that I lived in and so I had a sense that when I started
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digging around you see all the stuff from week of that and mcf and gadsby all that really sort of what would know that
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wouldn't fly these days but these these Engineers lived in a they were just part
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of the societ society that we were in yeah yeah yeah a reflection of the time yeah um so film uh was largely
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independently produced is that correct yeah yeah SW was that process like kind of uh putting this together by yourself
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um really satisfying actually I found it really um because I um produce my um
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producing partner um Tim B we have a production company Tasman Ray we produced the theater tour that happened
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um in 23 we've done a lot of producing in the past that the idea that we keep
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the project moving forward inside that sort of um production Paradigm was
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really satisfying to me I was really interested in getting a film off the ground um and um not having to go
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through all the hoops and hoopla of trying to get a film made in this country which is incredibly difficult um
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I was part of the wuo team which was again a another very sort of um
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independently made film In terms yeah which is another it was one of the Highlight project for me um and been
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able to approach um film and pretty much how I
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approach a lot lot of my theater work I guess in terms of that the form actually
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informs process and so in terms of like when able to keep the um keep
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um that the interviews were very organic and that I there was a bouncing ball I
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was able to do it over a long stretch of time yeah so that was really satisfying
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um amazing support from a post production House images and sound who I
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do a lot of Television work through so we love those guys you know and so they
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were incredibly supportive and then um taking us through that post process um
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you know there's a lot of archive in the film archives really expensive yeah um
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and so balancing that to a to afford that archive it was really tricky but
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then then Radio New Zealand coming in as um an acquisition afterwards it was a
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really satisfying process so now it's in cinemas um
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and it feels like it's arriving at a time of renewed kind of discourse and
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tension and that kind of thing the you the relations between Mar and Parky
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we've got triy principles Bill we've got the largest proest movement possibly in museal history the website for the
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submissions just went I know talk about timing yeah so
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what do you make of that and I guess what are your hopes for the part that this might play in that kind of you know
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what the the the the thing that's always astonished me about that telling the story has been when I when I made the
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play which is a piece of Aion Theater which I really enjoy it's a really fantastic theater form after the play
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any all everyone wants to talk about you see people leave the play and they're just like in these deep discussion
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walking away from the theater that the you for me I was
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people were talking about the incident what it means to them how it's relevant to them now um and so a funny way the
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film and the play becomes sort of something over here because the the the Cooper overtakes it but this is really
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really positive in that I think there's a penny drop moment that do come for
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some p in terms of understanding how we're partnersh come comes from and it's
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not threatening it's actually just really um clear and accessible as an
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idea so that's being real so I really hope that that maybe the if an audience
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does get in there it's a real word of mouth project um a thing like the play
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people come and you know tell people and what I gets I hopefully that happens in the cinema um that we will see these
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conversations is opening up and then understanding that the this idea of
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partnership which does go back to the treaty um that It Centers itself an
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understanding why this bill is absolutely inappropriate and needs to go
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so there will be that hopefully there'll be will be feeding back into that well if there's anything that you can take
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away from me it's that this fil is essential for new zealanders to watch so hopefully people get out there and see
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yeah yeah um talking about what's coming up in February um on Whitey day we have
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the release of alien Weaponry the uh documentary film uh about the young uh
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today only uh mle band um are you a big alien weary
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listener no but I'm a big alien alien weary fan so you know theyve always been
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astonishing what an incredible medium to you know Haight the deal and so um and of course alien whing
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played alongside Us in the F New Zealand isable so it's a looks like a fantastic film special place in your heart I mean
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it's um I've seen the film and it's it's really really wonderful it's really Entertainer you know the thing that
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really struck me the theong boys who are the kind of front M of the band um so
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young like at the beginning of the film they in the right yeah teenage B now
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they're only like 21 and 19 oh my really young to be doing something that is
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historical you know moving into a genre where this has happened before at such a young age and to them it's I it haven't
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se the movie but from the trailer I can glean that they that it was really they it was very apparent to them that they
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that they had to sing into yeah yeah like it was just yeah that's what they were going to do and one of the things
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that's really lovely about the film is that it's a it's a family affair so the whole family is like around them and
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supporting them and the the mother and father of the boys are just as significant to the film as the boys
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themselves and it's just a really beautiful kind of depiction of like wife
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and Al Young F A young family that are Bing this awesome heartart it's a really
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really great F I like see it um the other trailer that we're talking about is uh brard Jones matter out the boy
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yeah so this is the third Bridget Jones Fone yeah um do you have seen that one
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too I've seen the first one and so um you know like back in the day read the book we all love the book was kind of
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sort like the first yes yeah and it was kind of like the first sort of
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like checklist or whatever they used to call it or you know this really Yang
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female catric sort of quirky lature I remember at the time and then the then
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the film was just so successful yeah that F film is a is a is a really fun
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film to visit I mean yeah the interplay of um this just such clever
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scenes with Colin F and and hug that love triangle is just very satisfying
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and honestly it's probably my favorite of um Rene Z's performances so so
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there's I'm excited to see where they're going with this one now this is also based on a bridg of Jones book um one of
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the big controverses is that conf first car has passed away right yes yes so
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it's but it's not in the book it's not in the book I don't know I I think it is in the book right yeah I think like uh
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you know because it's being reintroduced and film for new audience is weird it
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yeah I must say I mean I was a little bit like I don't know because that that triangle is s significant to what it was
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but you have to be just like that they kill Mr Big yeah in the very first episode when he comes back you're like
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oh and then you go it's a pretty good device yeah it works it works so yeah I think it's it's pushing the story
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forward so that's always a good thing it'll be interesting to see what happens this new love interest play byal is year
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for so that's cool um hug shows up I don't know how much of it he's actually
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gonna be in but um that one I think is going to be a pretty raging success yes um because
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it's one of those titles that has a lot of love a lot of affection for back yeah I think I think it may get the the
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people that used to go to the sun might come back for Bridget J year yeah absolutely so it comes out the day
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before Valentine's Day there you go perfect yeah coming up also uh in February we have what it called g g
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galentine's day they gallentine or something they to make Valentine's Day Valentine's Day you could definitely do
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a g trip to bridg CH it will be great maybe I should do that
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yeah um coming up in cinemas in February also we have a range of um all sorts of
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different kinds of films um some of the kind of holdovers from Oscar season one
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of the big ones is I'm still here now this is a Brazilian film uh Fernand Torres who's the actress and I'm still
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here uh kind of shocked uh the awards prognosticators by
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winning best actress at the Golden Globes for drama um against some pretty
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Heavy Hitters um now this is a film about a woman uh struggling with The Disappearance of her husband during
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Brazilia uh Brazil's 1960s military dictatorship um it looks like a very
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very powerful very effective drama we've also got uh bird which is a which is one
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that was here as part of the British and Irish Film Festival but if you haven't seen it I highly recommend it one of my
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favorite films of last year um it is from Andre Arnold a director of fish tank and American Honey she's a great
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director of British realism this one is a little bit different it definitely is still kind of rooted in workingclass
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bristen as many of her films are um it's about a young girl who is kind of
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growing up in the very much like the wrong side of tracks part of Britain her
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father her young father played by Barry hogut is um uh well meaning but a little
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bit of a lunkhead and she runs into a mysterious
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kind of figure named Bird played by France rowski who's an amazing uh German
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act to um and it kind of builds into this very interesting almost magical
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realist drama uh it's a very very powerful film it doesn't go where you think it's going to go um and there's
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lots of really classic kind of moments of kind of um spontaneous working class joy in there
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as well which is always a big part of her films so that's a really really great film worth watching um Mike Lee's
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got a new film coming out this year hard truth yeah that was also at the festival I loved hard truth I'm a mive fan of
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Mike and um but it sounds um bird sounds like it's in that same sort of uh yeah
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kind of has picked up the mental of that kind of syn British realism that he
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maybe helped to start um but it's awesome that he's still making fils is
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incred can't wait um on the more Blockbuster side of things uh we've got
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Captain America New World Order now this also drops on the 13th of Fe this is the
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newest Captain America film Captain America is now played by Anthony mecky who was the Falcon in the earlier Marvel
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film this one uh is interesting because it is the first major Marvel film uh since the
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big flop of uh the Marvels in
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2022 um 23 23 um obviously there was Deadpool and Wolverine last year but
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that one was kind of sort of outside of the usual circle of these sorts of things this one is picking up the story
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again there has been a pretty significant kind of cultural drop and interest in these films so it's going to
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be interesting to see how this holds together it's it's been delayed several times there's been re-shoot on reshoots
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not re shoots who knows what we're going to get but it does have Harrison for in it so that is uh valuable I've never
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rone the marble World I'll be very honest with you so where are we up to in the marble world like sort of veryy
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deep we are very deep of mar uh and
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uh highs and lows and I I think you would describe it as being in a pretty
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deep low at the moment so whether they can build back at all I mean we'll see
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but um the trailers for this hadn't necessarily be super promising but you know I will probably still be seing it
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I'll probably be watching it um the monkey is a horror film now this one is
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from the director of long Lees uh in Perkins no that's Oswald Perkins Anthony
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Perkins is his grandfather I think um who was in psyo i v who made long legs
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did you see long legs not aan no no I didn't watch the substance the other night oh yeah
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that's my God but when I was watching it I was like I wonder if it was influenced
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by Brandy yeah SPL thing yeah right and the sounds they make with all the you
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know the needles going in so I went and ask old AI you know is the substance
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influenced by brain yes it is to but who knows yeah no you can never really tell
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if they are but I think uh I can definitely see the through line and that's FL genre yeah um long leagues
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also a really great horror film from last year well it's kind of well you know it's deeply scary but it's like a
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it's kind of like Sil of the lens or something like that um and it showed a really promising Talent inw Perkins the
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monkey is adapted from St King short story um which I haven't read but it looks like it's a whole bunch of for
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Island uh thiss that are kind of like in a final destination kind of way um that
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goes to some very Twisted places so that's going to be interesting on the 27th of February we have um Mikey
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manver uh Tina yes mi Mega Tina which looks amazing has a very powerful
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trailer yeah very very like really pulls at the heartstrings there a teacher who
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loses um uh the which is played by the brilliant annaa um got to make sure I
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say Anna's name correctly um Paula tyal and she's an
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incredible New Zealand actress um very well nine in theater circles and I think
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this this she plays a uh a mother who lives her daughter in the Christ j
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Christ and ends up in a very Posh Christ Church I think High School um teaching
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um ti so it's so really it's it looks like a classic
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heartfelt heartwarming movie Led Out by the incredible Anapa how howon is she's
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getting a moment with this kind of lead role yes yes from what I've heard it's a
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very powerful F I'm very excited for that one um last two I'll mention September 5th is out on white honey day
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and it's about um the Munich uh hostage crisis in the 70s and Love Hurts which
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is kind of in the vein of nobody and John Wick has got Kwan from uh e all at
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once uh in a kind of action role so there's a lot to look forward to this month
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MH so it's 2025 it's a new year um and that means that there are new films in
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the pipeline um there's a lot that uh we can look forward to this year a lot of really major filmmakers are um flexing
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their muscles and getting new films out there um I'm interested what you're what's you're anticipating uh coming up
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um probably my number one would be the Bob Dylan film with Timothy shamal yeah
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what's it called the complete unknown complete unknown um and that that
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apparently Timothy is just out the gate and and and I love a b pick they my
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favorite so my second film which I'm really looking forward too is the one about Maria Callis with I've seen that
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yeah yeah it's very good I really really enjoyed it and um there's amazing doco
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and here that came out maybe two years ago which is all this un you know found
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footage of Maria and it's just mesmerizing it's one of those movies I sort of have when I'm writing or
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something I just have sort of playing over and over in my office because it's just the the footage they found of her
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is just extraordinary so I'm really looking forward to that yeah I mean that's from film yeah it's from Pablo
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Lorraine um who also did Jeffy and spiter so he is third in this kind ofy
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about the big Divas yes it's it's Angelina Jolie in the lead Ro and she's really really
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strong and you know I actually didn't know much about Mar I know a lot about yeah be interested to know what a
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a big fan of her will take away from it but I found it to be a quite kindhearted fil like it's a it's a f that's very
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like drenched and S but it's Immaculate beautiful looking um as we've come to expect from the
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street gosh yeah but yeah there's something about it that I found quite kind of yeah moving and intoxicating and
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also quite yeah kind-hearted as I say um I haven't seen an they don't know but um
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I you know Dyan fan so I'm G to be interested to see you know yeah how his
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life fits into that biop pip kind of treatment yeah yeah um so I have been
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looking a little further in terms of films that I'm uh most anticipating this year first uh is a film called die my
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love it's from Lyn Ramsey who is uh an incredible filmmaker she's made films
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like um rat catcher we need to talk about Kevin or Keller um her new film
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has Jennifer Lawrence and it's about uh a housewife who started to kind of
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unravel um and there's not much detail beyond that that we know but the thing that draws me to it it is um is the
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presence of Lyn Ramsey she only makes films very rarely like she's such a master and very meticulous takes a long
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time to put out new FS so every time that we get a new one it's it's something to uh treasure and to be
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excited going on my list y um the next one is from Punam W it's
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called no other choice we've got a poster for this but that's it uh it's again a filmmaker because it's the
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filmmaker uninterested in in seeing the film par sh obviously made old boy the
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handmaiden his most recent was decision to leave so I'll be very interested to see it sounds like it's another kind of
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Thriller um he is just a very um he always makes a fascinated choice so
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that's always something to look out for as new Pat and what film um the next one I have here is one
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that we may or may not receive this year the reason I say that is that is from Terence m
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um of uh bad lands that rine injury of Life Etc it's called The Way of the wind
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and it has been in post production for six years and that's because Terence Malik does not do anything quickly he is
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very kind of um a tinkerer and everyone who knows his kind of director process
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knows that a lot gets thrown out um a lot of it's it's kind of a moving times
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this one is about the life of Jesus and the thing about Malik is that all his
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films are reflected with this kind of Christian iconography and ideas so it's
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going to be interesting to see him tackle the actual story of no hell absolutely facing Jesus yeah what's the
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title called The Way of the W can't wa there G he's been working on it since the 70s so I'm very interested to see
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what that HS of yeah um I have highest to lowest which is the new spark Le
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joint I am a huge spark Le fan um and his last film the five Bloods
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which is on Netflix highly recommended amazing film um this one is a remake of the Kura film high and low which is
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about uh businessman who um gets embroiled in this kind of hostage
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situation um and it's got Denzel Washington in the lead um and I think
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just the opportunity to see Spike Lee whose style is very different from kurasawa tackled this kurasawa film uh
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and have a new updated version of this classic I am there day one cannot wait
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sounds great the last one I have is a little bit uh more mainstream um Mission
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Impossible find Reckoning I love the mission imposs films of all the Blockbusters those are the ones that I
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go to B for um I will always right in there Tom right in there and we don't
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know what the big stunt is this time that there is surely going to be one he did all he does
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all um the last one de Reckoning was really really fun uh and really really
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well put together uh so I'm really excited to see how the story wraps up it is reportedly the final P Cruise
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possible so we will see what happens there but lots of Throwbacks isn't there like actor Throwbacks director
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Throwbacks with bridg Jones throwing yeah absolutely some really classical directors kind of coming back for
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another B so um there a lot love to us yeah and and making movies for the
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movies I guess like having a real understanding what it is to put it into that space you know because that's the
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big you know the challenge that we face as filmmakers is getting people into
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the 100% so um yeah highly recommend you
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B but goes and sees these kinds of
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[Music] films justly touch on what's showing on
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streaming this month we have our Apple TV plus an interesting kind of mysterious looking film called The Gorge
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um two uh hot young Stars Mar tella and Ana Taylor Joy of furiosa um they play
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two guards posted on opposite sides of in two guard towers on opposite sides of
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a mysterious mys gge no one knows what is down there um and there's a little
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mystery kind of shroud in this film so it's going to be interesting it looks like like a little bit of like a love story SL Blockbuster Sci-Fi Action uh
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the other big thing coming to Prime video this month is the third season of
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Reacher obviously based on the jack reach Reacher books um this one if
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you're a fan of the show it looks like a little bit more of the same but that's always enjoyable um one of the big kind
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of calling cards for this season is that obviously the carer Jack Reacher is this giant hulking kind of Beast Man and it
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looks like he's going out to against some even more Giant and more Hawking than before so uh that is going to be
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the big clash of the season of Richa um Katie I'm really really thankful that
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you came in today as I say I'm a huge fan of this film I um really hope that
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people get out there and watch it um thank you so much for being here with me today thanks Tom and something I've just
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learned is that say you know if you're wherever you are in Al if your if your
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local Cinema hasn't got the movie on yeah um ring them up ask for it ask for it
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and and so the Distributors really um they take note note of that so if it's
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not there give them a call and I'll I'll get L I think like this film would be
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really valuable to be watched some kind of rural smaller towns that kind of thing so um at the moment uh hak part
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incident is showing in screens Nationwide but it could always shown more screens so um please get out there
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and see it or ask for it in your Cinema kill it
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[Music] Tom Rialto this February we have the
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exclusive series premiere of best interests um this is a baath nominee uh coming to you on the 25th of February uh
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it's a really really powerful series it stars the great Sharon Hogan who is more
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known as a comedy ress uh I guess in recent times you know she was in bad sisters and also catastrophe which is
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one of my favorite series um this is a bit of a different kind of role for her
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um she Stars alongside the also excellent Michael Sheen as a pair of parents who are fighting for um proper
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care for their daughter who has a who is diagnosed at a young age with a particular kind of muscular distrophy um
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it is a very powerful very affecting series um very gripping with two just
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Titanic actors um tackling some very mecy topics so um please come along and
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check it out if you want to find out more about it go behind the scenes of best interest on Realo Channel's YouTube
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page you can find out more about the series uh and get a little peek into
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what was going on in the making of the [Music]
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show we've got a few giveaways for you um obviously this month is Valentine's
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Day 14th of February um the good folks of De Port chocolates have put together
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a very cool price paying for you um and a special one in your life or it could
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be a galentine's day gift as Casey said um head on over to v. co.nz we're also
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giving away a double pass to a film that will be revealed uh imminently so head
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on over and check it out um also on vag I just want to remind you that uh the
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best of 20 24 40 of my favorite films from the last year uh dropped last month
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if you haven't read it yet check it out so that you can have the lowdown on all the very best songs that you can watch
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uh from last year uh that's all from us today at point of view thank you so much for listening KY t

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