Point of View - Behind the Scenes of Our November Film Fest with Kate Rodger

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C and welcome to point of view I'm your host Tom Augustine we have got one heck of an episode for you today we have the
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amazing Kate Roger and absolute legend in the New Zealand film criticism scene
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um she is going to be talking to us about her patronage of the British and Irish Film Festival we're going to be
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talking about Oscar prognosticating um and we've got a whole bunch of really films to talk about as
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well um we're also later in the episode going to be talking to David blle uh very very cool New Zealand filmmaker
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pretty under the radar he's got a new film coming out and we're also doing a retrospective of some of his other films
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um and a whole bunch of other stuff so stay tune we are very very lucky today to have uh pretty much an icon an icon
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an icon of New Zealand probably the most iconic New Zealand reviewer I would say
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God I I just needed to hear that today I've had a quarter of a coffee yeah and I just needed to hear well warreners I
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think uh uh welcome thank you so much for being with us today a pleasure thanks for asking me how's uh how's uh
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life with uh you know the film world at the moment for you uh I find myself
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deliciously unemployed uh which in a way obviously is is worrying because you know I have a
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mortgage and annoying children uh who I need to feed and clothe uh but at the same time sometimes I just wake up and
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go you know what Tom I'm just going to go to movies yeah I'm just going to go and do that 100% uh and I've been doing
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a lot of that because I'm leading up into the British and Irish Film Fest and um they have so nicely asked me to be
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the patron of this and I'm so delighted about that mainly because I kind of I
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call this and it sounds weird and lame and a little bit um I rolly but um I
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think my cinematic Awakening was on the diry Streets of London CU up to that point I just loved going to the well not
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that there's anything wrong with it but I was just a mainstream girl uh and it was there that I sort of diverged off
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into the um my my art housee era I'll call it but um and then it just all kind
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of ignited from there so and I was very lucky to be back on those streets a couple of weeks ago went over um to
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London and uh and the BFI was just about to launch London Film Festival uh so I
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went across there and just um soaked up the at and did the like exhibition like Studios had an exhibition on which was
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great and um and they had I mean I'm just obviously this is the um program
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for the New Zealand British and Irish film feest but there is a lot like conclave which is the opening night film tonight uh was also opening the BFI and
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you know leaping straight into the um Oscars race while doing so uh so I was just stoked um to be asked to be a part
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of it and so what does what does being a patron of the fisal Christian as well what is a patron
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it sounds very an it sounds very well no it sounds very Like official and very s regal regal doesn't I did it just so
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that I could put Patron on my CV basically uh and it just involves uh
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just talking about it uh basically recording some reviews so
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I've been very lucky to get a few sneak looks at the likes of Rines and the return and Chuck Chuck baby and
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Firebrand here last last I watched it he was great town well done fugas yeah he was great
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and we were talking about um the return specifically and how um unbelievably ripped oh my God he's looking all right
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and I mean it's it's he's in it in it the most of the time if he's wearing a loin cloth then that's fully clothed in
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this film for ra uh and he's also got that it's a perfectly like it's not I've
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been taking steroids kind of stuff it's so fitting for um how ous on a boat
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forever correct would have looked he might have I mean he was skinny but wiry and you knew that he could he could
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slash a few heads if he needed to H so yeah there was was something really simple about that film that I really
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enjoyed and also just seeing him and Juliet BOS back together I me not that
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they were sort of spent a huge amount of time in The English Patient but it was um it was amazing to see so Fus Sino
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have done a great job getting like a a top-notch selection of films that like we live in time yeah the Andrew Garfield
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Florence Pew film which has just been dominating um my social feeds in the last week or so um and the film looks
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gorgeous and lovely and heartbreaking we were discussing I mean it looks like it kind of has that richer courtesy kind of
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feel to it yeah but maybe a little more I I don't know maybe a little more somber than that I think so and I also
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feel it's going to be one of those films where the trailer might be it gives you a taste but might be slightly misleading
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in the tone I think um I could be completely and I'll be seeing it on the weekend and um I can neither be proven
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wrong nor right then but it's it's great I'm seeing the Widow CLE Co on the weekend and the redley and it's just um
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yeah I don't know it's a funny time of the year as well right now where I'm
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still it's not summer it's most certainly not summer so hurry up and be summer it kind of does but it's also
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perfect um movie going with yeah absolutely so do you have uh from I mean
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not just the ones that you've seen but from the list is there one that you are triple underlining you have to go and
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see this one I've got to say and it's happening any second now it is conclave mainly because it's getting just so much
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Oscar buzz uh and also I just think it looks fascinating the production um
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values look amazing but also raf's in the sounds like he's in the running for um a bit of um Oscar love absolutely um
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and I love a good Pap drama totally and I feel like we haven't had something like that for a while no like the D
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Vinci Code or something like that same place exactly and Stanley toi I absolutely adore so it'll be um that's
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definitely high on my list and I have I I can't stop talking about Chuck Chuck baby but mainly because it's like I had
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no idea what I was in for uh and then I thought oh my God it's a Welsh lesbian
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romance musical sit in a chicken factory is this actually happening and is this making me feel like it was a really
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emotional uh there was a I just I just loved it and it wasn't what I was expecting I just got a screener for it
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I'm really excited to watch it you should be okay expect don't yeah it's it's it's you I was just like it
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unfolded in a in a way that I found um it was an absolute little sleeper Delight fantastic and we just found out
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also they've added a new film they've added hard truths the uh m m Lee film
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and again when we talk about the the films that kind of formed me when I was in my 20s Mike Le oh my goodness
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gracious uh so this is an interesting one I've only seen that obviously seen the tra for it so I think it's a great
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addition I think there were some issues around getting a rating for bird so they had to change some of the screenings but
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what a gift that was we got an extra film in the in the lineup so yeah bring it on yeah fantastic and and it reunites
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him with the secret and lies uh star uh Maran John Baptist I know and she's
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amazing incredible incredible actress and great having her front and center and a character that I I get the sense
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we're not supposed to like very much uh and which is so so good at doing but
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also infusing that character with so much Humanity uh which for me is what I
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love he takes a story that you're just a simple story and we relate to those
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characters because of you know it's all very well to say you know we we relate to them because of their flaws it sounds
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so cliche now but it's more complex than that and it's not like this is a reason why she's a you know because of
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something that happened it's not even he doesn't even explore that he just um gives us an opportunity to I don't know
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to broaden our minds and I think more importantly now than ever it's not taking things in and humans and
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situations that face value and that's I I don't know how you feel about storytellers like I feel like this about
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any storytellers that can bring a film to the screen that can open a door into
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a completely new way of thinking about something I am an awe of that ability and it's as it's a pen and a paper or a
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laptop that they are able to articulate oh that sounds wanky The Human Condition
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it's not even that that that they can articulate that and then give it to creatives and then get it to a big
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screen to formatively make me feel a whole lot of things I just I'm in awe of it it's incredible it changes your like
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emotional landscape I remember when I the first mik Le I ever watched was another year with Leslie Manville yeah
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and there's that final shot of her which is just so devastating well she's just phenomenal I just had to go and watch as
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much nightly as I could because it's just so incredible yeah I so yeah I um
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yeah she what can we say every time she pops up and just about everything whether she's um popping over to Paris to we Chanel or whatever she's up to you
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know she brings what whatever's required exct in a role and has been doing it for decades she's a she's amazing going a
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little wider scope um I'm quite interested you know you've been doing uh film reviews and coverage you've been
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visiting sets you've gone done red carpet coverage all of this sort of stuff um I'm interested in what your
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perception is of of the kind of landscape of film at the moment like as opposed to how it has been in the past
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have you seen what kind of big changes have you seen in the world of film uh since since you sort of kicked off so
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you know Mad Max Fury Rose yeah yeah that's how the landscape of film now
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feels think right now in this futuristic goby desert of yeah right of uh to
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survive on scrap um what a drama queen I am no I
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think that's fair I think that's fair I think or here we sit in in a year where
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uh In from from my perspective and having 21 incredibly nourishing years working for the best little Newsroom in
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the world uh to a landscape where an entire Newsroom can be switched off overnight uh and since then you know as
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you know across New Zealand we have had shows we we've got so many phenomenal
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creatives out of work both in media uh but also in film and television you know
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I've got we've got editors that hav got projects to work on it's been a massive slowdown and not just a flow on effect
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from the Hollywood strikes uh and that's just New Zealand uh I was having a long
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chat with a really great mate of mine who's based in New York and he is has been doing exactly what I do for the
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last 20 years uh in fact that's how we got to know each other and everything has change we had a little posy of
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junketeers I I call us all based all over the place and used to be Belgium and also the Middle East and London so
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and Germany just a wide gamut and the entire landscape of how you the industry
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now uh promotes film and let's face it that's what I've been doing for 20 years
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uh and it might it brings with it these amazing opportunities to hear from filmmakers and um actors and dops and uh
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cover the and the bafs and go to Tiff and go to Sundance and all of these things it's all an entertainment media
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world and it's just completely changed and social media has completely changed it and it's it's so much of it for so
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long and a system that is slightly flawed and um I've talked about this before that the we call it the the
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junket system and it's you know Gladiator 2's about to come out and um you know we're going to sit down with
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the Stars or you go to a red carpet and that's fundamentally what I've done I've flown to San Diego to stand on the um
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the Midway and cover the red carpet for Tom Cruiser's latest Top Gun uh and it's
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a sensation people are engaged and fascinated they love the Tom character
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they love Top Gun uh it people are interested in that and it was worthwhile for new sub to fly me to San Diego to
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cover that story and there's lots of uh access to the star you know that's
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that's how the system works and media gets invited to those things and you do the interviews but you're basically
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selling a product yeah in its fundamental way we're just all passionate about it yeah uh and we're
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film nerds about it and that whole system way back in the day uh when I did the first time that Daniel Craig did
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bond which was Cino Royale directed by kiwi Martin Campbell I remember I remember your uh your coverage of that
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do you were you born by time my gosh that's so great I don't feel nearly as
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old uh I got 40 minutes and that was standard yeah flew to Sydney for 40 minutes the next time for the second
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film I got four so in three years it completely fundamentally changed online
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changed everything so it wasn't just you know TV broadcast and also online print
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wanted video so it meant the video got truncated smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller and the quality of
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your interviews obviously declines a little cuz he's only so much you can get
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you go into a 4-minute interview with Johnny Depp hoping a that he's not drunk and B that you're going to get one grab
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out of that yeah that's worth flying all the way to freaking Chicago um that I can then pull a three minute story
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together with did you get one yeah I did good yeah um yeah but what I did at the top of that story uh was just to because
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I don't think there's an understanding in the audience of how we're how we have to function uh is that this was a 2
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minute 30 interview cuz he came back from a 3-hour lunch all our slots went from four to two and a half minutes
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right so I just played it on Fast Forward at the beginning of my two-minute story a to fill in time and
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be uh just to show this was as much time as I got so um
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godspeed so it's it's that that is insane and often you can go in with your
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four minutes and just before you go in a publicist will say really sorry you've only got three minutes and then they'll
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rap you and when you play the video back um on your laptop you only got you know yeah one minute 90 or something insane
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just a littleit it is and fascinatingly just recently in the last couple of weeks the San Sebastian Film Festival
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was held and Johnny Depp was there with the film and obviously there's still lots of interest in his um comeback and
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there were a group of journalists and let's not forget there is a huge horde of entertainment journalists who are
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Freelancers that get paid for their content and they pay to go to film festivals because they know they'll get
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a raft of content out of but they had a walk of a group of international journalists who basically said Johnny de
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was suddenly paired with two other coar so the most you're going to get is one question and you've got to hang an
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entire GQ article on that potentially a cover story uh or it's a print round
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table that used to have five reporters there now 20 reporters and it's 10 minutes with four uh and they just said
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we're we're done we can't even pay our bills uh and interestingly as I mentioned talking to my lovely friend
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Stevie last night uh he said that's what he's seeing with all of our um long-term
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entertainment reporters who are Freelancers is that they can no longer do the thing that they love and I mean
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you mentioned the incursion of that kind of online tech World which I think just sort of at some point bled into all
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these systems that seem to be working really well for everyone really I mean I
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we're jumping all over the place but talking about like I was thinking about how streaming the other day really threw
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out a model that made a lot of people money so that a few people would make a lot of money yeah and it feels like that
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has been echoing across the landscape what do you think the like
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long-term impact is for people in terms of their getting getting the good stuff
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getting getting stuff that's really worth it in terms of both the films that they watch but also you know the reviews
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that they read the the interviews that they watch that kind of thing yeah see what's fundamentally changed as well in
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my time is that the only way you would have seen Daniel Craig or Tom Cruz would have been by switching on your
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television so and then the internet came along and you can see my extended interviews online but actually you can
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see a thousand interviews uh because of every other reporter that's loaded it up on so you no longer a point a way like
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I've had kids that are now adults come up to me uh making me feel amazing and
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ancient I grew up watching you on TV and that it was the only way that I could indulge in my love of film was that
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Saturday night slot which was the review slot film 3 or my interview content that was the only way that they could get
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there I was going to say I was going to mention this off the air but my um my partner Amanda said as I was coming in
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to I was going to speak to Kate Rogers she said uh real late with Kate stuff I love fil so love so score love you
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absolute score I love that show um we were crazy easy we basically just did 35
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apps bang we should have done Seasons because at the end of it we were broke
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and exhausted uh and LIF imp thank you I honestly God I
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absolutely love making that show uh and I would love to do something like it again but so it has all fundamentally
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changed about what how you can access and also I think audience's appetites have changed about what we want they
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don't want to watch a 4-minute interview that um Robert patson has done 70 of that day
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and we're lucky here in a sense because we're always going to get maybe something just that little bit different um being a kiwi or not being American
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you might get a a little J sequa um but it's uh it it it has changed and we have
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to evolve with it I genuinely believe I haven't evolved fast enough and I see people doing I mean you look at the
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chicken shop um you know takeoff look at the hot wings you know those kinds of
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ideas but what's fundamentally I believe also Chang things is podcast so why would you watch a four minute Ro
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interview with well listen to with Pedro Pascal when you can go on to spot to
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Smart lless uh and have an hour's worth of those guys yarning and the most and
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and those are the guys that have the access and the stories and and so that for me even I will say that's quality
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saying that's a bad thing um cuz oh my gosh I love podcasts what do you think I'm doing here uh and I love talking
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about film and and being able to get deep and dirty into it the weeds yes pleas because we don't get
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enough of that in a 4minute interview and I'd argue probably not even a 10-minute one and do you know what
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before we change the subject and I know I'm talking too much but you're not um I saw Nica um cockland go on the front
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cover of time last week you know from Bridgeton uh and Deary girls she's phenomenal uh and one of the last
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interviews I did before news Hub um reped up was a sit down with her and it was a 15 minute sit down because it
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wasn't an ordinary junket it was an Uber Eats thing so it was and also we had 10 minutes just to yarn and of course she's
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just just such a great woman and the quality of that interaction as a
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result you know so much so much better and if I flew to Hong Kong to do Jackie Chan if they'd given me a 4minute
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interview it took 10 nearly 15 minutes for us to to to warm up to each other
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and really struggled with him yeah um and then boom we were off but if I'd
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been given a shorter slot it would have been useless uh and he was awesome it was so great they put it on the it was
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for the Shinjuku Incident and they put that uh interview on the DVD when they released it uh only because it was a 45
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minute interview yeah right so a little bit more time it gets so much deeper bring on the podcast and if I hav an
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evolve fast enough that's on me no I mean listen there's uh there's all sorts
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of different ways to keep adapting us I know you're right you're right you're very right I'll take you aside
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afterwards and you can tell me what they are yeah thanks Tom tning now to uh screen entertainment
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news and we're going to be talking about uh well it's the beginning of Oscar season isn't it though October kind of
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marks the beginning right yeah so I thought uh who better to talk about the upcoming Oscar uh kind of all the
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unfolding of all the campaigns and that than someone who's actually love this been on the uh being on the red carpets
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and that kind of thing uh yeah they were good they were good times that's a crazy
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time to be have you ever been in La during Oscars season no I have not it's um that's where the first time I did it
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that's when I was it really hit home what an industry it is it just shuts down that that whole town and if we
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think about how the award season now functions it's so absolutely ramm there's always been a lot of
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conversation by the time we get to the Oscars it's like we're all over it but it still leads up to that Pinal uh
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because it makes or breaks careers and films and you know there are whole marketing firms devoted Oscar campaigns
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and the politics of it and the extra money those films make and now even more so on VOD um it becomes you know it was
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always fascinating to see which ones kind of emerge as Front Runners through I know usually well sometimes they are
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but they aren't always the ones that you'd be like you'd like go to bed for as being like anything major really I mean like
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often there are really good films in the mix but they're not usually the Front Runners right I don't know if often it's
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the one that W is the one that is like the best of the year do you find that also I mean you can compare uh felmer
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and Louise to Shakespeare and love I mean how do you compare a Gladiator film
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with a Nora I mean it's it is it's it's crafted to be a popularity contest uh
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it's also a spectacle uh which we love it's uh any awards ceremony is by Nature
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I think flawed yeah uh but we love it oh yeah it's so much fun and with the
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Oscars it's been around you know so long and has always been that one night that
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people and that one season but now you know Harvey Weinstein that that guy that
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according to Trump is shouldn't really be in jail you know uh that guy he you
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know he pioneered marketing for Oscars you know he really set up a system where
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he unod that an Oscar attached to a film changes changes everything uh and also
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for actors and actresses and creators these you know quite apart from the
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individual Joy of having an an Oscar um voted for by your peers but it's also
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the season over recent years has also been a cause for kind of peeling back the
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curtain a little bit the whole Hollywood F press Golden Globes I mean we've always known the glob were a Croc but
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you know when you see the you know was 90 people random old dudes voting uh and
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then with the Oscars I mean the Oscars so white all of the those kinds of controversies around the awards they're
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all really valid and I think there's been an evolution in kind of some is window dressing some is not um but they
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got to be seen for what they are well it's interesting that you mentioned that Oscar marketing thing because for a
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while there there was that kind of the Oscar film which would get made probably
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for the express purpose of of winning Oscars but it seems like it's less of a
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relevant uh it's less of a relevant way to approach it because the
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ones that are winning these days aren't necessarily the ones that you would pin as big Oscar hopefuls no I mean if you
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think of like parasite or Moonlight or um everything every all at once and
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people love to add up like there's now 10 and the reason that there's now 10 nominees of best film is so you can have
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a Top Gun in there and then people might or if there's a film with gagar and it you know maybe people will watch the
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ceremony but also uh that classic you know the nine out of the 10 nominees add
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all that box office up and it won't equal you know Maverick for example they love that so we need to acknowledge the
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films that people are paying money to go and see is that the Oscar's job I I'd say it probably isn't yeah probably but
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you know they've still got to evolve and I can also argue you know why are you going to watch the Oscars which are
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about a whole lot of films that nobody saw when they want people to watch that ceremony yeah no absolutely and they've
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started there's there's been the beginnings of people making their predictions and that kind of thing so we
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starting to see a few films recurring in terms of ones that are mentioned but
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there doesn't seem to be like a real front runner yet no there doesn't which is interesting it's not like last year where there was Oppenheimer and it was
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like pretty much soed up from the beginning right yeah God we were in the throws of bimer weren't we we were it
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was fun last year was a just a b crazy year it was a crazy year I loved that and I loved at the beginning of
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this year that joker apparently was going to be in the run for an Oscar and look at that complete train wreck that
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did not work out but Hood also has a a history of kind of repackaging and
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wrapping up a film and delivering it to the Oscars absolutely um because it's still an Oscar winning film if it
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wins best you know editing or music or whatever it might be so they may still throw you know Warner Brothers may still
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throw some money at it I'm trying I think what it did well um it's marketing
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before it was released was done well yeah if only there was a if only there was an Oscar for that um the so some of
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the ones that are big ones we've mentioned one already conclave yeah that seems like it's that's getting serious
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traction pretty respectable offering I don't know like it looks like it's very handsome and very like handsome that's
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such a great word for it definitely but like it looks like real classic kind of good meaty Oscar feir which is good um
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and then obviously Gladiator 2 as well we depend how much of a success it is
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that could be the top gun Maverick but we've also you know Tom Cruz bless him
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he not going to get nominated for uh an acting Oscar he has been before but not for not for Top Gun but redley could you
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know if this is bed out of the park and if he well and truly you know it could
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definitely swing Pedro pasc Vengeance in this life all the next yes he could SN one in there you're welcome and Denzel
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as well um it's yeah who who who knows how it will go but I think there's a lot
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of chat and we have there's a couple of other little ones that are kind of bubbling around and Amelia Perez yeah uh
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with Selena Gomez and zo Sana and it could be like Zoe's been around for such a long time and she's such a good
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performer it be nice to see her get some she's getting a lot of chat for this film and I'm I'm I'm very here for it
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I'm very interested in this film because jacqu odad who's this kind of I love himen provocator he's done all sorts
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yeah but I mean since Rus and Bone I feel like I haven't seen anything else from him that's really hit home for me I
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mean a prophet was just a mindblowing film uh and agre so uh and it just it
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sounds like it's got all the element musical slash uh I guess like a cartel narrative
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slash uh kind of exploration of of transgender
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identity those three statements in one I mean amazing um I think I'm very here for and on that note uh the documentary
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section of the Oscars is going to be a fascinating one and seeing how well Farah will go with well and Harper which
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is just one of the loveliest couple of ours in a cinema when I say loveliest it was just Illuminating it was
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heartwarming it was funny as hell uh and I would love to see that get S Oscar's traction fantastic um we've got June
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part two few people are predicting that we'll get a kind of like a knowledgement nom
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probably not a front it's a best film do you think yeah well um possibly we'll get like a it's a big film give it a
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best picture n but not really and the're running for B yeah agreed agreed see can you tell me what's happened to
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challenges that's one of the best films I've seen all year it hands down better get a bloody soundtrack nomination
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absolutely is it just a case that it came out too ear I wonder but I'm not hearing because sometimes they do that and then they start to pump money and to
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it because there was so as a cinematic oh my gosh it was so great but it's way down the lists of everything I'm seeing
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so maybe it's just yeah as you say it came out earlier and it's kind of lost its strum are there any other films that
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you think you would love to see in there that probably aren't getting in the conversation at the moment that's
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definitely one of them for sure uh and there's a couple of others that I'm desperate to see that I haven't had a chance to yet and I think Adrien Brody
29:16
and the brutalist uh is is one of them and also just look at that trailer
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they've done an amazing job you often don't see a fresh way of doing trailers but um I just first of all it's like
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what is this about and just the Cinematic it's a fil that I'm looking at thinking I cannot wait to see that on
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the big screen it's about a Jewish architect I've no idea about the story but when a trailer sucks you in on all
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of those different sensual levels and you know the interesting thing Brady corpit uh corber directs this he's an
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actor you'll see him he's the first thing I remember seeing him in was Martha Marcy May and Mar um and I
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interviewed him way back in the day in can when that film first came out and there was a very it was quite an intensity to to him and in the way that
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he spoke about the story it doesn't surprise and he's popped up in all sorts of random lots and lots of TV and and
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film over the years so for him to suddenly come out of nowhere and have a film nominated I think is 4our film shot
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on Vista Vision that they made for like $10 million unbelievable bring it I'm very I'm very here for that uh we
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haven't talked about Timothy shalam and whether his Bob Dunham will get um I
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don't know what it is I'm not into it and I don't are you the same I I'm not feeling it either why is I just don't
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like I just this kind of biopic generation of like you know we have ban
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Rap City and all those other ones and they just feel like they're condensing these very complex lives into these very
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kind of prepackaged narratives that don't really fit yeah and I felt like that
30:49
watching the trailer for this I was like maybe it's a case of a trailer and a great film uh one can hope so I mean
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James Mangold very good filmmaker so I think he's and I'm very here for it but yeah so
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that's hardly kind of a closet kind of an option um but I would uh I don't know
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he's ridiculously talented we see I think we'll see a best actor n probably maybe yeah yeah maybe
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um also susha Ronan uh I mean she's got Blitz and she's got the as it the out
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run out run which is a really lovely little film and her performance is really strong she's stunning uh and I just think
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she again she has just turned in consistent from a from a bub has she
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turned in consistent she's Jew as they say she's Jew and that's to say this might not be it but then she'll she'll
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she'll be up there uh and I think again I have these amazing memories from her and Lovely Bones um with Susan sendon
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and went to Wellington for the big Premiere that because of course they had it in in in New Zealand and I got to sit
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with the both of them together uh and you know very different roles and very uh but so
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connected to each other those two women she was really young but just so um
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contained but with a warmth and a genuine authenticity to her that I thought was um topnotch and I just loved
32:13
watching that's it's such an amazing career and you know not that I like to indulge in Hollywood gossip but her and
32:18
Jack lden as a couple I didn't realize and I'm so obsessed with slow horses oh my goodness gracious the final two EPS
32:25
of the latest season I haven't got that far no but oh my gosh you just done for such a treat I love Jack Len as well
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he's so amazing um uh and obviously there's the front runner which is Anora
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yeah um which is Shawn Baker's film um everything I hear is absolute Rave um
32:42
Mikey Madison is maybe a front runner for actress yeah we haven't seen it not seen it just the trailers but what was
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the Florida what was the Florida one called Florida project oh my gosh that just broke me that film I just thought
32:54
it was phenomenal Tangerine was that him as well yeah uh I just i' loved um the
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Florida project so very very much and it would be great I mean people seem to be really rooting for him like yeah I think
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I think quite apart from it being um and look how many of these are a24 are they
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going to have a really I mean there's brutalist there's I know Nora's neon I believe oh is it I thought it was a24
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but yeah I think there's another one that people have mentioned Sing Sing which I think is an a24 yeah common
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Domingo he's in a lot of conversations for best actor um and isn't it funny how he's just B
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St so talent I mean like look at all of that cast of euphoria I mean in all
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seriousness Sydney Sweeny and colan obviously is in and no-brainer but um I find it f and Jacob AI good grief uh
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it's fascinating how that show has springboarded a whole lot of and I mean he's Mr overnight sensation he's been
33:48
turning in good work his whole career but um really any any Euphoria episode with Coleman immediately just eles I
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know just stunning he's just got a way about him I first time I encountered him was in fear The Walking Dead oh yes
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that's the first time I'd ever seen him in anything and I remember he was a character that I didn't trust yeah he's
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got it all going on and now of course he's just the you know the best dress dude honestly every time he hits a red
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carpet just bring it on one more that I wish we would see more of that probably won't get much noticed cuz it was a bit
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but they thought of it as a bit of a flop was furiosa a film that I really loved but so we think of it as a bit of
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a flop cuz it didn't do as well at the Box and I think maybe the reception was generally a little bit more muted look
34:32
how can you follow Fury Road how can you follow Fury Road I do I didn't have as good a time and fairness um for for lots
34:39
of different reasons I think the Simplicity of Fury Road uh and I found this one was slightly more complicated
34:44
but honestly still just bring that kind of cinemon to me um I loved it and I think it's definitely in the
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conversation what do you think do you think it needs a best picture N I would love that I it's one of those films that
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I initially you know you're going in with that Fury Road experience but I've watched it three times now and it just
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deepens time all right I've only done it once and I watched Fury Road a couple of times time around it really started to
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open up for me and I was like oh he's doing something quite different here that's quite powerful um okay well I
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I'll do it again that fil he might get he might get visual effects SNS and that kind of thing yeah well wether will be up for Apes again which they deserve oh
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speaking of Apes yeah what the hell are we so totally here for Robin Williams
35:27
Robbie Williams for bit man when he's he's basically his whole Robbie Williams story is told yeah as a as a monkey as I
35:35
mean that I don't know if that's going to be one that the Oscars group responds to but maybe it could be like a rocket
35:42
man thing where everyone's just like so here for it that's true and also it's the dude that greatest showman I'm
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willing to put down money that it will be more well I will probably enjoy it more than the the show oh my hands down
35:54
I will but then they're very different you know he's an ENT I mean I don't know if you saw the um
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the doco um series that he did and I just found it fascinating I'm fascinated by by him um anyway that was a weird
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segue so yeah maybe VFX and maybe we'll see that for June um and you know the appetite uh June prophecy I cannot wait
36:14
for that show to land I know we're talking about movies but yeah well no it speaks to that kind of cultural movement
36:20
it does but Al the culture movement but also that World building that you get through visual effects which I think is
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um it just gets better and better and it's not a distraction anymore it's just an ability to it's done well oh gosh and
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I just um I do love Jun so yeah I hear you bring on Oscar
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season so we've got uh a whole bunch of pretty interesting stuff coming up this
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month in the cinema yeah man um I wanted to start by talking about a film that I saw the other night called Saturday
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night which is Jason Ran's film about uh the first episode of Saturday did you
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see the whole film I did see the whole film God you're a man to know yeah yeah I got I got a got a lovely little
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preview screening which was nice okay um it's a it's kind of almost in the style
37:10
of something like Birdman it's like a behind the scenes um lots of long takes
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very stressful film about uh the 90 minutes before they went to ear and it focuses on lawn Michaels um as he tries
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to Wrangle a cast of nut jobs nut jobs yeah nut jobs yeah love it
37:28
um so is this one that's been on your radar one that you're interested in it has I've been interested in the the eum
37:33
flow of people saying this is going to be an absolutely amazing film and then this film sucks so it's been a really interesting kind of a mix I've liked
37:40
what they've done with their their socials they've got a great cast uh and I mean I I don't know how many times I
37:47
watch Saturday Night Live Clips online a week um it's just and it's iconic it
37:53
it's Gob smacking in the way that it has just been this petri dish of creating some of the greatest comics and greatest
37:59
performers of our time but also that they churn that out week after week after week and we talk about evolving
38:06
they have evolved so well with um with the socials aspect of what they do uh
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there's no better way to learn your craft than watching doing that live yeah and also watching it so what were
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your thoughts should we be excited well I was I was kind of in the middle actually like um I think the best
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element of it is seeing the like how the sausage gets made and also the like period Recreation as
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very uh detailed in a good way in a good way great they' shot it uh in this kind
38:34
of like handheld like you know kind of uh dirty grainy kind of thing yeah and
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um it it it works really well there's some really talented young cast members as well um whether it amounts to more
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than sort of like scratching Lord Michaels back I don't know but I mean it's it's hugely enjoyable in the
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watching you know like especially towards the end when it starts to pick up pick up steam you start to really get
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a sense of oh this is like um this shows an institution and you can see and it's
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really nice to see the roots of it so but will it have much reach here though I mean said ain't alive as a thing but
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it's get obviously it's an institution in the States but uh and I know lots of people hard out into it here but I'm I'm
39:18
be interested to see how it'll go I don't know that it will I mean it's it is very inside baseball the movie is
39:24
very inside baseball like it's very like um heaps of jokes about SNL but like I
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don't know unless you're like a giant nerd like me I don't know whether it will agreed and just getting kiwis in
39:35
the door in the first instance 100% interesting there's a certain kind of um
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uh New Zealand thing where they're not necessarily as as keen on American Comedy as as British comedy I find a lot
39:49
of the times yeah that might be changing slightly we all grew up on British com comedy B uh but no agreed agreed I think
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it'll be tough one to Market yeah uh the next one we've got uh is one that will not be tough to Market I don't think it
40:03
is Gladiator 2 I've heard of that yeah was there another one was there a gladiator one there was a gladiator one
40:09
once upon a time I think I've only seen it 100 times I watched it I did some Long Haul flights recently and uh just
40:16
thought at 2:00 in the morning over some ocean just wanting to just smother myself I was just uh in the back of the
40:24
in the back of the plane and I thought I'm going to just soak myself up is that a reference to walk smothering his death
40:30
little bit Yeah gosh when I that's so interesting you say that he is so great
40:36
isn't he he is he is he's next level
40:41
everybody there is not a a false step in that film and it has not aged in a day
40:47
uh I I just love it and I'm also embarrassed how much of the dialogue of that film that I know I'm embarrassed
40:52
can you do the speech no I'm not going to do it for you but thank you thank you for asking I'm just always embarrassed
40:57
because he just does it in a way that just um and it's the turning and the way that redley you know shoots it and just
41:05
takes the helmet off and turns it around and you're just even now you get Goosebump I've seen this 100 times but it feels so good it's so it's so so so
41:13
good would you say it's your favorite Ridley uh well alien hard one e super super tough he
41:21
does have a very varied career I mean look I mean people kind of seem to think he's on a bit of a downward slope at the
41:28
moment but I think there's been plenty of 80 for God's sake totally it's and he might even be older he's
41:36
just he just continues to kind of churn them out and and a lot of them have been really good I thought the last Jewel was
41:42
really good yeah um alien Covenant is fun I thought alien Covenant was great
41:47
I've visited the set for alien oh Covenant in Australia I got to sneak on
41:53
and I we weren't allow cameras or anything but I got to have a wander around so cool and he is weathering oh my gosh we were with a
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group of press and one of them had the sheer audacity to um compare the Prometheus s coming to
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to an original and oh my God I that that journalist just left in a pool of it
42:17
was I loved him for it though because it was a dumb question um but yeah it was
42:22
fascinating to to be on a set of that magnitude and just um and watch him do as it was very very cool well the
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Gladiator too the trailers look really promising Paul mcal in the lead who I think is a really great Rising Star um
42:37
and then we've got Denzel as well yeah just a bit of heft in there yeah Chuck Denzel in there Chuck a bit of Denzel
42:43
and Pedro as well Pedro Pascal love me a bit of love me a little bit of Pedro he um yeah and I love how the again in
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their marketing it's a what do we call it a four quadrant film I mean the of gladiator is over the decades and
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Universal it is but you've got um poor Mescal and and Pascal who will bring in
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a different generation uh to come and see it it's I I don't know it's for me
43:11
it would be an absolute travesty if he doesn't hit this out of the park and
43:17
that's the problem when you but I mean if Tom can do it pressure's on can't rley no no exactly yeah so I have a I
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have a belief and from those that the earlier social media reactions after that La special screening that popped up
43:30
out of nowhere have been pretty good uh and I think denel is getting a bit of
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Buzz and so is Ridley at this point in the award season race um so let let us
43:41
let us see we absolutely see um shifting to a slightly well a much smaller film a
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documentary that I caught earlier this year at the fin M New Zealand you say it the first I was gutted to miss it it's
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very very powerful film uh no other land um is a film uh following um some of the
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you know people living in the West Bank uh the occupied West Bank it's filmed by a um Palestinian Israeli
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Collective devastating truly powerful this was all shot prior to prior to
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October and it's a it's a truly truly um Monumental effort um it's it's it's one
44:24
of those films that I just think it's like something that everyone should watch it's it's an incredibly powerful documentary so with an an opportunity to
44:31
see something like this off the back of something that's just dominated um their Consciousness
44:38
globally and geopol politically but socially as well is this an opportunity for people to have a greater
44:45
understanding I think so and an understanding of what exactly well I think just an awareness of the uh
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situation I think a lot of the time there's like a well in Rec in the recent kind of discourse it's been like it was
44:59
October let's not think about anything that happened before that this is a portrait of of the world as it was
45:05
before that I think it is very necessary context and I think like watching it
45:11
with a massive audience in the Civic and afterwards I think there were a lot of people who just sat there in silence for
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the entire credit run and it just it really leaves a mark a really deep Mark
45:23
it's a very very powerful film well that's got to that's got to be a number one watch then yeah
45:29
uh this is a bit of a shift talking about a very different kind of
45:34
film uh because well Christmas is coming no it's not I went
45:40
into uh as I'm want to do um I like to go into like selfes and fortam andas and
45:47
places like that when I go back to my old old h of London and it was late
45:52
September time there is absolutely no need for Christmas ation just there's
45:57
just there should be a law if you're bypassing Halloween that's pretty evil
46:03
correct anyway so um I could feel all of my um anti Christmas Grinchy um coming
46:09
to the four but I do love Christmas and I do love a Christmas movie uh I don't know if you're going to feel that way have you seen the trailer for red one um
46:16
uh look my therapist said I'll eventually get over watching the trailer for Reb but who knows people may love it
46:23
where how where are we we talk about the changing face of this year where are we with the rock where are we right now I
46:31
mean I I was thinking about this the other day because there was a period in time when he was actually doing some
46:37
really interesting work bers I mean even before then he was in he was Southland
46:44
Tales you know likeing like however you feel about that film the fact that The Rock was willing to be in that I know
46:50
and then I think he became more of a brand and uh now Everything feels like it's tied into the brand
46:57
yeah but I I mean I took one look at this the trailer for this film which is it's
47:04
about uh a really jacked Canta played by JK Simmons who gets kidnapped and then
47:11
the Rock and Chris Evans have to go and find him hunt him down and save him um
47:17
and all that bad feeling just rushed back I don't know I mean I have a real
47:22
affection for I have a real affection for Dwayne Johnson especially because I'm a uh died in the W Fast and Furious
47:29
fan sure but uh yeah I I don't know about this one look I I find the feeling around the
47:37
rock fascinating if I go into any school not in a stalky way but if I'm talking at a school uh or any whatever function
47:45
of anybody that's under the age of 15 yeah and I'll say you know I've
47:50
interviewed Marl Street no I've interviewed Tom Cruz that's amazing have you interviewed The Rock only about six
47:56
times absolute Carnage he is beloved in this country
48:01
absolutely beloved and I'm here for it yeah I I grew I grew up in South Oakland where everyone was claiming to be his
48:07
cousin and uh that uh was he does have that impact he has that Jason M MO is
48:13
the same in of more recent times uh so it's a it's a really interesting one I think when it comes to uh up until
48:22
recently I've found his social profile to be incredibly inspiring he's all about you know hard work putting in the
48:27
Mah and and conducting yourself with um you know and I was into it and then and
48:33
the same thing with um M Mo and his vodka brand suddenly we every time the rock posts he's he's sipping on his you
48:39
know his tequila and you know I don't begrudge anyone trying to make a living don't get me wrong um but that that's
48:46
become slightly more icky for me over uh and even I love Ryan Reynolds but you
48:51
know then it's all about his Aviation Jin here there you see the J in all the it's so it's a bit too it's a bit too
48:58
icky but then there's a big part of me this is like you know whatever don't be so judgy but again with the rock I feel
49:04
like he also hasn't had a hit for for a bit yeah no totally I feel like I feel like maybe the effect is wearing off a
49:10
little bit a little bit and I tell you what one of the most amazing men to interview every single time he's just
49:17
gracious generous um genuinely Charming as well and and ched on and off camera I
49:23
find him fantastic and he's definitely got a presence I think the first time I interviewed him he still had here and I
49:29
think it was for maybe the tooth fairy or one of those old films and it was in Sydney and I'm walking into this dining
49:35
hotel room which all of those junkers had and he stood up to shake my hand and it was just like this mountain of a man
49:41
with these amazing white teeth and it was just like so overpowering wow he's a big dude yeah he's a big dude okay well
49:48
you might have convinced me to give it another try I'm not trying to convince you the film looks like it might not be
49:53
great but yeah but I felt a rush of affection for The Rock um how do we feel about the Chris Evans ass sa is that
50:00
even a word you know when he popped up in uh spoiler alert and and deool and Wolverine and started saying cuss words
50:08
I thought people you know the cinema was into it and I was just don't don't do it it wasn't working for me it didn't work
50:14
for me either we need I I think he has struggled to find something outside of
50:20
Captain America I know it's so hard because more well anything to do with
50:25
Ryan Johnson um he should he should do because he I just that role and that was
50:31
he was just so great he's even great and um I mean I was thinking about snow piercer and how amazing great he's kind
50:39
of the best performance in that film I of yeah in a weird way it's like it's
50:44
not as performance driven is it D but I just thought he was sells it he really really sells it um so yeah I don't I
50:51
don't I don't know maybe people will go see it they will you know um and anything that brings money in um at
50:57
Christmas time um for our Cinemas then I'm here for it totally uh another one that's probably going to do the same as
51:03
as wicked um it is part one of the cinema adaptation of the I didn't know
51:09
that stage show yeah no it's split in two for some reason I don't we know the reason well yeah no that is that is fair
51:16
yeah king um but um look shoot me uh I'm sorry that I'm not going to be on the wicked train and I know everybody that's
51:23
ever seen it on stage it's their best Stage Show they've ever SE abely it and I'm all here for Cinema you know either
51:30
starting in theater or coming off you know give me the greatest and or you know Lion King or
51:36
Hamilton whatever it might be uh so it's going to have they're certainly marketing the hell out of it um and they
51:41
would have spent a bit of money I think the casting is great I don't know I could quite happily go to my grave having not seen it but that's that's
51:48
just me I watched the trailer and it was so H it was so fake looking M like it
51:56
was so um in this kind of like really garish yeah kind of artificial way it
52:03
just switched me off completely right are you do you know the story fan of the show have you seen it do you care you
52:08
like music I don't really it's not really my thing but I I know the music obviously that kind of thing I don't have necessarily bad feelings towards it
52:14
and I also like both I like both Ariana Grande and Cynthia think Cynthia is amazing yeah so I I I'm definitely open
52:21
to it in that I'm going to be very open to it I'm going to go into it with an open mind also coming up in cinemas uh this
52:28
month we've got a film that uh was at KH I believe Christmas Eve and Miller's point it's got Michael si in it um it's
52:36
it's like a family drama set at Christmas so another good option uh if red one is not your thing um we've also
52:44
got Moana 2 which is the uh sequel to the very successful uh Disney animated
52:49
film uh your monster which Stars Melissa Barrera from uh the scream series and
52:56
and um earlier this year Abigail um she's in it's like a romance Franken
53:02
steiny kind of romance I believe um we got taka which was one of the New
53:07
Zealand films at the at fom Mama this year um about the theater company uh
53:12
we've got memory which stars Peter sgard and we've also got uh on streaming I believe only it's the piano lesson um
53:21
which is the fil film directorial debut of Denzel Washington son not John
53:27
David do what a talented family very talented family I believe John David is in there as well as well I could watch
53:34
him all day and that'll be interesting to see how that does cuz again that's and people are chatting that through
53:39
award season aren't they yeah um myana too um always I love Moana the original
53:46
I absolutely adored but and there's a live action one I'm sort of feeling that we're getting to Moana saturation
53:51
saturation yeah totally absolutely the the one that I'm really interested in is the too version is that the one that's
53:57
come out recently yeah yeah that's really cool I think they did in Kento as well there's been so many great um too
54:04
versions of Disney fantastic uh now we've got a couple of trailers for films
54:10
that are coming out this month as well the first one is a really interesting looking stopmotion Australian film
54:16
called memoire of a snail have you seen this one I have seen the trailer only
54:21
for this film it just won the London Film Festival the BFI it's the first time in the history of the festival and
54:27
animation an animated film has won I am absolutely passionate about stop motion
54:34
anim love love it I don't you know whether it's a where it Anderson or it's
54:40
it's one of those I just don't know how they do it and I don't know how they have the patience to do it and even if we go back
54:47
through like the caral lines and the Kubo and the two strings it's Wallace and grommet it's just like the
54:53
dedication to that but ultimately it doesn't matter how you craft and sell a store it's got to be the story itself
54:58
and watching the trailer I'm getting kind of a sense but what a teaser it is because I really still don't really have
55:04
a sense of what what it's really about well I I saw somewhere that it's it's
55:09
it's a tragic comedy which is quite that's well who does tragedy comedies better than the Aussies that's true and
55:16
what a voice cast Cody Smith MC and um Jackie Weaver which is very easy to to pick her voice and um succession Stars
55:23
we'll be very happy to see SN who think so bring it on and the aesthetic of it
55:28
is just a delight well yeah I mean I think the thing about stop motion I'm the same I I'll always if there's a stop
55:34
motion animated film or another kind of Animation film I'm always going to go for stop motion I think maybe it's that handcrafted element like that you can
55:40
see the work that's gone honestly I remember when they released from Kubo the behind the scenes um and it was all
55:47
done on a time lapse and it was just like unbelievable it's just stunning and
55:53
I love dogs um not my favorite whz film but I got to um visit the stop motion Studio down in um Christ Church uh where
56:02
New Zealand um animator uh was working on the film and see how it was M you
56:08
know how they do it with their cameras looking down I was just like and also I love that that kind of
56:15
thing we could make it right here on this not we I couldn't because I'm an umpty but a stop motion animator can
56:21
tell a story yeah uh in the tiniest of um kind of
56:26
landscapes in the most cinematic of ways you know so I just I I hard out I dig it
56:32
this is a side a side note but did you also see the trailer for the new Wallace and grommet film that's coming out no
56:38
which one it's there's a new one that's called Murder most foul and it brings back feathers McGraw
56:44
the penguin with the rubber glove on noted noted yeah wor look okay is that coming out next year do we think yeah
56:50
yeah yeah all right well we'll um add that to our list of stop motion Joy yeah um the other uh trailer that we've got
56:57
is for Lucy lawless's directorial debut the documentary never look away um have
57:04
you seen the I have I actually went uh into the cinema uh to watch a film
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that's completely escaped my menopausal brain last week it's the first time I sat down and watched something in ages
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and it was played before the film uh and I hadn't seen it on the big screen I'd
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only seen it on my laptop and you know how much more powerful things are on the big screen and her story I think too
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because of 20 years in the media and knowing camera women that have that same
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anarchic uh kind of spirit to them um and how hard it's it is to have that cut
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through as a woman but just generally and I also saw Kate Winslet and Lee last night so I feel like there's an element
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of that you know that uh that it's not necessarily an addiction but you know there's HT Locker there are so many
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films made about how hard it is when you're in that environment and how drawn
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you are to going back into incredibly dangerous adrenaline yeah so um I'm the
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early feedback from screenings at festivals is topnotch I can't wait to see it I think it's amazing that Lucy's
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you know going behind the camera yes and the archival footage that she's had access um I just I bring it on I can't
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wait yeah so it's a it's a portrait of Margaret moth who was um a very notable
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War photographer um suffered a very very a
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terrible uh bullet wound and then back shooting uh with a camera uh uh very
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soon after um I haven't seen the film but I have heard that it's um it's
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really valuable and that it's not just a it's not just a puff piece it's it's it delves into the complex kind of emotions
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of Margaret moth and paints a really F fascinating yeah complex picture of an
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individual and also we need this content archivally to be made to reflect the
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true history of um new zealanders but also New Zealand you know film and media
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so um yeah very excited to see
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[Music] it quickly covering off the stuff that's
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coming up on streaming this month um one of the big ones is one that I would have
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thought we would get uh Cinema release but it's looking like maybe we won't which is Blitz which is Steve McQueen's
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new film we need to see this on the big screen this is my call out can we please have this film on the big screen anything from Steve McQueen we know
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visually is going to be extraordinary yeah especially this Oneil which looks like it's a big World War II war film
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yeah um suha ronin's getting Oscar buzz for it yeah maybe it's timing I don't know how it works in the Grand Old World
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of um trying to release films uh to an audience that wants to see them and maybe War films pre- Christmas aren't
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there and the buzz I honestly don't know but I would love to see it on the big screen absolutely I so as far as I know
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it's about the London bombings during the World War II and um it's it tells a
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bunch of disperate stories that slowly come together but as you say Stephen Queen is an amazing visualist amazing
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filmmaker um and uh one of his earlier films that came out this year occupied
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city was one of my favorites of the year so so uh hopefully we can get this on the big screen but otherwise it is
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coming to streaming as well so at least we can see it at least can see it um another film that's coming out is Joy
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which does our own Thomas and M love her I mean what a combo um I've only seen
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the trailer for this um and it premiered at the London Film Fest so it was great to see her on the red car but she's
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getting ra reviews and it's um it's quite an interesting story right it's about the first test tube baby it is
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yeah so it explores that whole nature um of fertility and what they were fighting for um way back in the day so I think
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it's great um film and great story to have out so no I'm into it I would like to see that on the big screen but um all
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good really strong cast um lastly we've also got a TV show that's releasing the new Star Wars offering Star Wars
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Skeleton Crew are you are you a Star Wars fan am I a Star Wars fan you are a Star Wars fan I'm a Star Wars fan oh yes
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of course right um I'm a Star Wars fan um no uh I I I've been a therapy for
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years about my Star Wars addiction so it's been an interesting trajectory as Disney has released all of these shows
1:01:24
uh and the loves and the hates and the saturation and even now it it's going to have to be good I'm a massive Star Wars
1:01:31
fan but I there's it had quite a promising trailer um it had a really promising trailer and I like the market
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that it's targeting um as well which is a younger one and trying to um bring some new fans into the into the scope
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but I'm a fan of the darker ones you know just bring on um uh Andor I want
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season yes which just the writing of that was extraordinary uh so yeah I I'm
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it watching suffice to say I'll be watching Skeleton Crew fantastic um Kate
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it has been an absolute joy to have you here today as I say you are an icon of
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the scene can you give me a t-shirt PR please no we we're in the process of having it thank you so much for being
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here it really means a lot absolute [Music]
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pleasure away for some of the movies that we've just talked about uh never look away is Lucy lawless's documentary
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debut about war photographer Margaret moth uh it is one that I think is a mustsee um thank you to trigger Mark
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marketing we are going to be giving away if you passes for that we've also got uh passes to mimir of a snail the
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Australian stop motion film it's got a great voice cast it looks really interesting um I love stop motion I'm
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there um thank you so much to the good Folks at M man for that that's our show for today thank you so much for joining
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us I'm Tom Augustine we'll see you next time kak

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